Re: HINDU ppt

Dear Irfan,

 

Very good response. I would have liked it to be hosted on group posts. You may make necessary corrections:

1.  I have not prepared this ppt. It came to me and I fwd.
2.  when u say many then put them as 1 2 3
3. come out with facts about tolerance in various countries and issues ( do some basic research so it does not become totally controversial).

Hope a enlightened vad vivad / debate will help clear several issues / wrong image / wrong portraying.And reduce differances / voilence.

It will be also very nice if ( very difficult to do for common man) to thank some govt  policies if r good towards their community.

It will be nice if you keep writing and make right place thinkers and good communicators as otherwise they r thought to be only voilent ( and I keep getting threatening mails but just delete them).

 

Image / perceptions / fobia / ill will can change thru properly putting down arguments but substantiated with facts and figure.Hope we will have better tomorrow. I will always fwd  any/ all  ppt if it is showing goodness of any community/ group of  people/  religious group. It is only by chance Hindu has come. Send Muslim, cristian, SC / ST etc showing good of them and same will be fwd too.

 

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From: Irfan Khan <ifru@hotmail.com>
To: tholiya@yahoo.com
Sent: Tue, 10 August, 2010 1:09:01 PM
Subject: RE: [menow] HINDU


Well Alok Bhai,

 
Many of the facts are untrue because subsidies are not given as a charity to Haj pilgrims but to make business if Air India doesnt do it there are airlines lined up for that, hence nothing secular or unsecular. 
 
You portrayed Muslims in India as if they have been dropped from space but infact they are as much indian as any Hindu or buddhist could be. For centuries people have accepted the faith and reverted to islam so many of these were of a religion other than islam. Apart from the above the very interesting fact you pointed about the diversified culture and the provision of constitutional rights given to each and every individual in this very country of ours. India proclaimed that its a secular country and that gives it a stand in the global area to be recognised.
 
I agree most of the muslim country doesnt has a leader other than muslim but not all. If you try to get a sneak quick look at most of the gulf states every one is allowed to practise his/her religion infact you will find churches and temples in UAE, Bahrain, Indonesia and all these are because Islam is a tolerant religion which disseminates equality and peace among all the human race.
 
The points you've raised in you presentation makes me proud more of being an Indian and to have neighbours who are tolerant Hindus as you profess yourself. If your mail is to create a pacification among all indians of all races then you've done the job, but if the intention is otherwise then you've incited more harm than good.

 

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From: tholiya@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:40:40 +0530
Subject: [menow] HINDU

 

Subject: HINDU

A very good prsentation on secularism!  a thought provoking.

Regards
Babulal

 

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Gatari festival

Respected Jayshree ( anti Jain/ anti vegetarian)ji,

 

Hopeu have recovered from Gatari day celebration. I am sure u have not written anything against Gatari festival and rather must have participated in same. Nr my house too many were lying dhutta ( drunk) , had bad fight, called police , police too were drunk.

 

But while as an esteemed editor of Navakal u had all the time to write against Jain food but not against Gatari.

Never mind . having heard OSHO I can understand ur personality and its traits. To some sin, bad immoral. inhuman, addictions, fights, false criticisms look good and justified and god things, good habits, good acharan and good sanskar will look fobic and will start yelling, crying wolf and create fear psychosis in inocent minds.

 

Keep it up. From centuries such people have beeb there and have to be there. If there weree no night then we will never like shine. If there were no bad then good will never get appreciation.

 

Or choice was instead , of whipping whole community, vegetarainism u cud discuss and condemn behaviour of a particular builder. Also like u keep ur target clients ( of Navakal ) happy to sell more ( by rotten article like below) may be these builders keep in mind their target client who will buy and be lesser / maneageable nuisance clients. There business policy is there decision. Can I ask for stopping slaughter house, chakla street, non veg hotel, bar, etc etc. No. It is their culture and their business choice and policy. I have still a choice to avoid these places and go to options available with me instead of degarding them.

Similarly find options available. Govt  has enough quota in MAHDA flats for you ( may have used that ) , they have given patrakar colony in Bandra then why u insisting on a paticular project. And no builder project is for particular class of people. If u go with a proposal that u can buy majority of flats they will give you even if they r Jains.I have been yesterday to Kalpataru project nr Bombay Central where majority r muslim and they knew that is their market segment and accordingly build and sold.

 

U can go to any jain builder and assure u r strict Veg and u r likely to get flat.So it not against any group pf people but it is there choice of food habits. If u dont like any kind of food then it may make u nostalgic like can u eat beef??? can u eat snake it is like that we cant easily stand smell of non veg or fish cooking, or on bakar idd cutting of goat in open.

 

By the way there r many marathi origin Jains too. And jains r from differant cultures like Kanada, telgu, tamil, haryana, panjabi etc though Gujrati and marwaris r in more nos. On my free site for digambarjains I have chogules, patil satpute, vartak, lad, aherkar etc etc who r originally marathi and also a Jain. U will be as journalist be in a better position to find how many Marathi Jains r there and also from other cultures.

 

Basically can I so rudely attack ur business policy of Navakal which may be exteremly biased to a particular segment of society? Then how can u target others for their business policy.

 
 

Reg : ur blog and article in Navakal...Pl. have courtesy to reply. ..Alok

 

http://jayshreekhadilkar.blogspot.com/2010/06/blog-post.html

 

1. Kindly convert ur mail in english and send me for better circulation and bigger audience.
2. U r khadilkar or pande because u cant be both?
3. Pande means from which community/ region?
4. can u give me dictionary meaning of Dadagiri?
5. If u love mansahar so much then why not ask ur followers and followers of ur views to start having in religious place the items / eateable u want to promote. Also tell everyone to give the items as prasad , have it in all religious functions and social functions and have it in Shravan mahina too.

By the way what most people dont do/eat / drink  in religiouas places, on particular days , months , occassions ( like not having non veg/ maans ) jains do it through out the day, year and life and everywhere . They dont serve or eat it in Gurudwara, temples, many places Jains donts serve or take it anywhere. No what is ur problem? Why u dont eat in such places and on particular days ??  Because u r hypocrite?? U do something in front of idol and do another behind??

 

Awaiting ur reply...before I understand ur full blog  and psyche. See u shortly to discuss these issues in person,

 

 

Thanks and Regards,
Alok Tholiya (S.E.O.),Marigold Hall,
Tholiya Bhavan,10th Road,Santacruz East,
Mumbai 400055
M:9324225699
My favourite quote: Work hard to get what u like...or else....U ll b forced to like what u get!
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