Saturday, November 13, 2010

Fw: Sayyad bhai has thrown a brilliant question who none r able to awnser but.........Alok



----- Forwarded Message ----
From: shamim dalvi <sdalvilegal@gmail.com>
To: Mr Alok Tholiya <tholiya@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, 13 November, 2010 3:31:15 PM
Subject: Re: Sayyad bhai has thrown a brilliant question who none r able to awnser but.........Alok

Dear Alok,

Am in agreement with what you have written.  Honesty does not pay and
those who are upright are looked down upon.  BUT that does NOT mean
that right thinking clean people should suffer the unclean majority.
I am with you and share your views.  Keep up the good work.

Regards,
Shamim


On 11/13/10, Mr Alok Tholiya <tholiya@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> No one ever told you this ..... no one has courage... but Alok does not mind
> making whole world enemy. Some want to kill me / hate me / wish I die but I
> would take that as a wish of god and vice a versa will not take wrong
> statements
> as wish of god.....Alok
>
>
>
> U r right cent percent. But Sayyad bhai what have we all done to ensure that
> Mr
> Clean rises. If there is a Mr Clean in our area/community we ignore him and
> only
> respect one loaded with money, has car , has lots of influence, throws
> parties
> etc etc. Mr clean r side lined by all, ignored, even family looks at him
> with
> hate as he is not able to make money. Media will cover any one who bribes,
> throws cocktail parties, gives controversial statement, is communal, who
> allotts
> flats to journalists, who takes them to foreign trips, gives them VIP passes
> and
> gives them ready made news to be cast. Since Mr clean is unbias, can not
> throw cocktails, can not favor media etc etc he never gets press coverage.So
> either  Mr clean dies in suffocation / depression or becomes spiritual and
> resigns to fate/ destiny. I have in my life seen so many unsung honest
> officers
> and politicians wgho cud not rise in life and nothing was wrong with them
> but
> was totally ignored by masses and media. U want to try????
>
> Go as a ordinary man to any gathering , live in honestly earned one room
> apartment, live simple and see the treatment you get from society. On the
> otherhand earn black money, do frauds, committ crime ( but police and
> judicial
> system) , throw party ( and all who's who will attend), drive in in a
> shuafer
> driven premium car   and see how like madhumakkhi ( honey bee) people crowd
> you
> like a hero. Then give some communal / controversial statement and see all
> media
> will be covering you.
>
> If u r a trustee of a educational institute and take money and do favor to
> media
> and police and mantralaya then you rise further, you are resppected,
> bureacrats
> sanction land and licence to you to build more collges so you make more
> money
> but if you are honest and give admission only as per rules/ merits then ur
> own
> friend and relatives who wanted favours turn in to ur enemies , govt ,
> police,
> officers etc keep you away, and ur institute becomes a khandahar/ ordinary
> place
> where as those who take donations and bribes their institute becomes modern,
> AC,
> luxerious well amintained institute. This is because apathy of ordinary
> citizens
> who will not support a honest worker /institute but give tons if their arms
> are
> twisted when they want admission for their wards.
>
>
> Honestly reply how many honest social worker / institute u have personally
> supported in your life??? Where as how many times you have contributed ( as
> bribe or donations) when you needed their help, approached by influential
> rogue.
>
>
> Believe me I have never ever approached anyone for any financial help or
> support
> for my activities as I will get none and will have to only be put in odd /
> embarrassing situation but people put their whole mite ( men and machinery)
> behind a corrupt neta as he will not harrass them / will help in customs
> when
> they arrive with lots of shopping, will help them when need
> licence/permissions/want to save their illegal structure/ will help when
> their
> wards committ some illegal acts( rash driving, drugs, fights/ etc) , and the
> list goes on.
>
>
> Why blame politicians?? They have risen that heights because media has given
> them exposure and people have voted them in. Speak against people who vote
> on
> personal , communal,linguistic ground and speak against our worst judicial
> system who has never punished influential, biggies, VIPs, political heroes
> etc
> etc. Dawood and all other mafias r so not because they were so but because
> the
> police, media, courts found in them money making machine and backed them to
> the
> core. 60% of Mumbai is slumbai not because anything genuine but because
> bureacrats, police and courts ( who dish out stay /injunction on bribe) who
> encouraged it happen and not because of politicians. If wardofficer wanted
> he
> would not let it happen even if Gandhi nehru wanted ( top of politicians) ,
> if
> police wanted they cud put them behind bars under MRTP, if courts wanted
> then
> they would have not given stays so liberally and nither wud have delayed
> cases
> for decades. So the sysytem we r having is bad society which respects
> criminals
> and bribers and we find solace in cursing politicians.
>
> Do u find that society respects ordinary honest ??? Dont you see everyday
> even
> so called intelligensia/ successful only welocme warmly one who has money (
> means to becomes monied is never cared for) ???? And u want honest
> politicians.
> We are the soil .It is we who r breeding notorious , nefarious ,
> politicains.
> And then looking foe fruits when we are only letting poisonus plants to come
> up.
>
> Work for improving the quality of soil( yourself) and see automatically good
> plants will rise. All those criticising politicians are themselves
> adultrators,
> frauds, chamchas of rich and mighty,r unetical in their proffession (
> doctors,lawyers,teachers,CA.s etc etc ) they r bas contractors who do not
> deliver promised quality, they r selling inferior ahrdware, duplicate /
> cheap
> chinese good, putting up illegal business/ structures etc etc , and list
> goes on
> ( supposing some one approaches u that he can get u a flat in MAHADA in poor
> man
> s quota at peanut will u refuse???), develop this idea and tell me who is
> corrupt and this kind of society can we develop and have honets
> leaders???????
>
> Lastly if by chance a very honest seffronist is contesting against your own
> community person who is a criminal and corrupt then whom will you vote for??
> (
> vice a versa I ask others too )???
>
> Let us first be honest, deliver honestly what we committ to our customers/
> clients, live simple , let us not be in a hurry to rise ( by wrong means) ,
> pay
> for all services ( most take illegal connections, liceneces etc ) , help
> honest
> poor social worker and then expect honest leaders.
>
>
>
> For Issues of Sr. citizens : http://varishthanagrik.blogspot.com/ Issues of
> Public interests : http://aloktholiya.blogspot.com/
> http://tenantsoftholiyabhavn.blogspot.com/ For harrassed litigansts :
> http://litigants.ning.com/ For education funds :
> http://ngoandsociety.spaces.live.com/default.aspx •Also subscribe to my very
> popular yahoo group for mails on ahead of time views: Send blank mail to:
> menow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com precious collections:
> http://beautifulwe.blogspot.com/
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/aloktholiya
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: mumbai_intellectuals_voice_and_media_source@yahoogroups.com
> From: m.s.sayyed@hotmail.com
> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 02:27:08 +0530
> Subject: RE: [mumbai_intellectuals_voice_and_media_source] U.N.Slams City
> Corps
>
>
> The only unanswerable question in the reality show Kaun Banega Crorepati is
> to
> name Mr Clean in our politics even after using all life lines.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: mumbai_intellectuals_voice_and_media_source@yahoogroups.com
> From: rrpdalal@hotmail.com
> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 00:14:02 +0530
> Subject: RE: [mumbai_intellectuals_voice_and_media_source] U.N.Slams City
> Corps
>
>
> And are they bringing back R R Patil Home Minister of 26/11 fame back in to
> Prithviraj Chavans cabinet?
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> Thanks and Regards, Alok Tholiya (S.E.O.), M:9324225699 : ONLY AUTHENTIC
> FREE
> MATRIMONIALS WEBSITE FOR DIGAMBAR JAINS: www.digambarjains.com/
>
>
>


--
Thanks & Regards

Shamim Dalvi

Friday, November 12, 2010

RE: Sayyad bhai has thrown a brilliant question who none r able to awnser but.........Alok


 
No one ever told you this ..... no one has courage... but Alok does not mind making whole world enemy. Some want to kill me / hate me / wish I die but I would take that as a wish of god and vice a versa will not take wrong statements as wish of god.....Alok
 
 
U r right cent percent. But Sayyad bhai what have we all done to ensure that Mr Clean rises. If there is a Mr Clean in our area/community we ignore him and only respect one loaded with money, has car , has lots of influence, throws parties etc etc. Mr clean r side lined by all, ignored, even family looks at him with hate as he is not able to make money. Media will cover any one who bribes, throws cocktail parties, gives controversial statement, is communal, who allotts flats to journalists, who takes them to foreign trips, gives them VIP passes and gives them ready made news to be cast. Since Mr clean is unbias, can not throw cocktails, can not favor media etc etc he never gets press coverage.So either  Mr clean dies in suffocation / depression or becomes spiritual and resigns to fate/ destiny. I have in my life seen so many unsung honest officers and politicians wgho cud not rise in life and nothing was wrong with them but was totally ignored by masses and media. U want to try????
 
Go as a ordinary man to any gathering , live in honestly earned one room apartment, live simple and see the treatment you get from society. On the otherhand earn black money, do frauds, committ crime ( but police and judicial system) , throw party ( and all who's who will attend), drive in in a shuafer driven premium car   and see how like madhumakkhi ( honey bee) people crowd you like a hero. Then give some communal / controversial statement and see all media will be covering you.
 
If u r a trustee of a educational institute and take money and do favor to media and police and mantralaya then you rise further, you are resppected, bureacrats sanction land and licence to you to build more collges so you make more money but if you are honest and give admission only as per rules/ merits then ur own friend and relatives who wanted favours turn in to ur enemies , govt , police, officers etc keep you away, and ur institute becomes a khandahar/ ordinary place where as those who take donations and bribes their institute becomes modern, AC, luxerious well amintained institute. This is because apathy of ordinary citizens who will not support a honest worker /institute but give tons if their arms are twisted when they want admission for their wards.
 
Honestly reply how many honest social worker / institute u have personally supported in your life??? Where as how many times you have contributed ( as bribe or donations) when you needed their help, approached by influential rogue.
 
Believe me I have never ever approached anyone for any financial help or support for my activities as I will get none and will have to only be put in odd / embarrassing situation but people put their whole mite ( men and machinery) behind a corrupt neta as he will not harrass them / will help in customs when they arrive with lots of shopping, will help them when need licence/permissions/want to save their illegal structure/ will help when their wards committ some illegal acts( rash driving, drugs, fights/ etc) , and the list goes on.
 
Why blame politicians?? They have risen that heights because media has given them exposure and people have voted them in. Speak against people who vote on personal , communal,linguistic ground and speak against our worst judicial system who has never punished influential, biggies, VIPs, political heroes etc etc. Dawood and all other mafias r so not because they were so but because the police, media, courts found in them money making machine and backed them to the core. 60% of Mumbai is slumbai not because anything genuine but because bureacrats, police and courts ( who dish out stay /injunction on bribe) who encouraged it happen and not because of politicians. If wardofficer wanted he would not let it happen even if Gandhi nehru wanted ( top of politicians) , if police wanted they cud put them behind bars under MRTP, if courts wanted then they would have not given stays so liberally and nither wud have delayed cases for decades. So the sysytem we r having is bad society which respects criminals and bribers and we find solace in cursing politicians.
 
Do u find that society respects ordinary honest ??? Dont you see everyday even so called intelligensia/ successful only welocme warmly one who has money ( means to becomes monied is never cared for) ???? And u want honest politicians. We are the soil .It is we who r breeding notorious , nefarious , politicains. And then looking foe fruits when we are only letting poisonus plants to come up.
 
Work for improving the quality of soil( yourself) and see automatically good plants will rise. All those criticising politicians are themselves adultrators, frauds, chamchas of rich and mighty,r unetical in their proffession ( doctors,lawyers,teachers,CA.s etc etc ) they r bas contractors who do not deliver promised quality, they r selling inferior ahrdware, duplicate / cheap chinese good, putting up illegal business/ structures etc etc , and list goes on ( supposing some one approaches u that he can get u a flat in MAHADA in poor man s quota at peanut will u refuse???), develop this idea and tell me who is corrupt and this kind of society can we develop and have honets leaders???????
 
Lastly if by chance a very honest seffronist is contesting against your own community person who is a criminal and corrupt then whom will you vote for?? ( vice a versa I ask others too )???
 
Let us first be honest, deliver honestly what we committ to our customers/ clients, live simple , let us not be in a hurry to rise ( by wrong means) , pay for all services ( most take illegal connections, liceneces etc ) , help honest poor social worker and then expect honest leaders.



Thanks and Regards, Alok Tholiya (S.E.O.), M:9324225699 : ONLY AUTHENTIC FREE MATRIMONIALS WEBSITE FOR DIGAMBAR JAINS: www.digambarjains.com/
For Issues of Sr. citizens : http://varishthanagrik.blogspot.com/ Issues of Public interests : http://aloktholiya.blogspot.com/ http://tenantsoftholiyabhavn.blogspot.com/ For harrassed litigansts : http://litigants.ning.com/ For education funds : http://ngoandsociety.spaces.live.com/default.aspx •Also subscribe to my very popular yahoo group for mails on ahead of time views: Send blank mail to: menow-subscribe@yahoogroups.com precious collections: http://beautifulwe.blogspot.com/
http://www.linkedin.com/in/aloktholiya



 

To: mumbai_intellectuals_voice_and_media_source@yahoogroups.com
From: m.s.sayyed@hotmail.com
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 02:27:08 +0530
Subject: RE: [mumbai_intellectuals_voice_and_media_source] U.N.Slams City Corps

 

The only unanswerable question in the reality show Kaun Banega Crorepati is to name Mr Clean in our politics even after using all life lines.



To: mumbai_intellectuals_voice_and_media_source@yahoogroups.com
From: rrpdalal@hotmail.com
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 00:14:02 +0530
Subject: RE: [mumbai_intellectuals_voice_and_media_source] U.N.Slams City Corps

 
And are they bringing back R R Patil Home Minister of 26/11 fame back in to Prithviraj Chavans cabinet?
 


Wednesday, November 10, 2010

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I have recd ur Dipavali pujanam. Good book. thansk. But since no one reads books in my house pl. do not send such book as I cant put religious books in bhangar/ scrap  too and saving paper means saving tree. Hope u will not misunderstand me.
 
Thanks and Regards,
Alok Tholiya (S.E.O) M:9324225699

www.digambarjains.com




Fake message and site......beware readers too.....Alok

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Then came ur phone. On ur request I am sending the matter of message received by me.I once again request u and cyber police to act fast and nab the culprits as they will dupe many innocents.

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2nd message came : Dear customer thank you for visit our website. Sender TD D V D
 
Thanks and Regards,
Alok Tholiya (S.E.O) M:9324225699

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