Saturday, March 19, 2011

lesson from germany Alok requests u to read

Alok adds: My god. This mail deserves an award. We Indian (those with money+ego and which r easy to find) feel anything available to us is for over use / misuse / wasting/ showing off be it food, fuel,electricity,water or any other resources ( they unneccessarily burden a peon / junior because he is paid and is available).In one marriage preparation meeting when the father of girl said I have arranged for 3 sweets and a Icecream then another friend Harish commented friend only 3 sweets ??? And I said 3 are more then enough. But those present liked suggestion of Harish and appreciated him as a very modern, matured and guest friendly and I was brushed aside. Similar suggestions for everything jacked up expenses of this friend from 25 lacs to 40 lacs and finally he sold one of the plot at Nasik to pay for marriahge expenses.
 
With my limited need ( my office and home is in same building) and budget I have been having only low end Maruti van for last 23 years( though changed every few year).
Most friends will suggest Alok, why not go for this make or that. I would promptly reply my budget is Rs. 2 .5 lacs. If rest u can foot then I dont mind changing. But most of the others buy,borrow steal to just keep their false pride.
One of my just married cousines  in laws had a bitter fight and demand for more dowery only because back at home they wanted to have reception.How and why u can sqeeuz arms of bride side to throw a dinner?? I dont know what kind of people those are.
In my case we hosted a good engagement party from our side. So in marriage we did not arrange any dinner as groom side. There were some who commented that what kind of people we are that we did not throw a dinner. And situation was that forget but asking we refused the insisting offer of bride side for 2-3 functions and clerly told them that we will come only once in a barat and that's it.Not going in to much details of things but my father paid back for a cooking range which my inlaws gave in marriage which they had to accept as he declared he will not eat food cooked on dowry gift. He did not accept any thing for himself and did not allow dowry item to be kept in his room ( even a photo frame).
 
Yes it was difficult for him to accpt anything from a in laws of son when  this man had  lived all his life with pride of not accpeting any thing from his father since school days (since 9th standard he gave tution and studied : B.com, LLB, ICWA,CAIIB, DBM, CS,Sanskrit Visharad, etc was lecturer in VJTI the then most renowned engineering college, was paper setter and examiner for exams of all india cost and works accountants). But in 2001 a road accident affected his memory and nature badly.
 
And  went to the extent of refusing to accpt anything from his own father that every thing of my grandfather which should have gone to him fell in to my lap like a ripe mango ( share in grand pa's property). Daddy blatantly refused to see his name being included in  his father's will or anywhere.He does not accept anything from us to even at the age of 88 years. Does not want to bother my staff and wants to do all his work by himeself ( except for last few months as he is not well).In last 30 years I have never gone to make payment for any bills, to do train reservations etc etc but he does not want to trouble my staff easily available to him and even his own staff.
But sorry situation is others as I see want to waste power, fuel, food, take help of labourer even if not needed as they think they can afford and there are many who cant afford do every mean thing to show then can afford ( like dowery, fraud,over charging,bribe,gifts,manipulations,borrowing,sell spurious, adultarated  etc etc..).
 
Hope we Indians too learn to use / spend only as much as we can with honest means and waste not want not , order not if we cant consume.
 
But high order is n't it?? As we all want to live in false pride and show off.
 
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Deepak Barodia <barodiads@gmail.com> wrote:


Wasting food

 !!-----please read its my humble request

 

 

 


Germany is a highly industrialized country. It produces top brands like Benz, BMW, Siemens etc. The nuclear reactor pump is made in a small town in this country.
In such a country, many will think its people lead a luxurious life. At least that was my impression before my study trip.

When I arrived at Hamburg , my colleagues who work in Hamburg arranged a welcome party for me in a restaurant. As we walked into the restaurant, we noticed that a lot of tables were empty. There was a table where a young couple was having their meal. There were only two dishes and two cans of  beer on the table. I wondered if such simple meal could be romantic, and  whether the girl will leave this stingy guy.

There were a few old ladies on another table. When a dish is served, the waiter would distribute the food for them, and they would finish every bit of the food on their plates.

We did not pay much attention to them, as we were looking forward to the dishes we ordered. As we were hungry, our local colleague ordered more food for us.

As the restaurant was quiet, the food came quite fast. Since there were other activities arranged for us, we did not spend much time dining. When we left, there was still about one third of unconsumed food on the table.

When we were leaving the restaurant, we heard someone calling us. We noticed the old ladies in the restaurant were talking about us to the restaurant owner. When they spoke to us in English, we understood that they were unhappy about us wasting so much food. We immediately felt that  they were really being too busybody.

"We paid for our food, it is none of your business how much food we left behind," my colleague Gui told the old ladies.

The old ladies were furious. One of them immediately took her hand phone out and made a call to someone. After a while, a man in uniform from the Social Security organization arrived. Upon knowing  what the dispute was, he issued us a 50 Mark fine.

We all kept quiet. The local colleague took out a 50 Mark note and repeatedly apologized to the officer.

The officer told us in a stern voice, "ORDER WHAT YOU CAN CONSUME, MONEY IS YOURS BUT RESOURCES BELONG TO THE SOCIETY. THERE ARE MANY OTHERS IN THE WORLD WHO ARE FACING SHORTAGE OF RESOURCES. YOU HAVE  NO REASON TO WASTE RESOURCES.´"

Our face turned red. We all agreed with him in our hearts. The mindset of people of this rich country put all of us to shame. WE REALLY NEED TO REFLECT ON THIS. We are from  country which is not very rich in resources. To save face, we order large quantity and also waste food when we give others a treat. THIS LESSON TAUGHT US A LESSON TO THINK SERIOUSLY ABOUT CHANGING OUR BAD HABITS.

My colleague Photostatted the fine ticket and gave a copy to each of us as a souvenir. All of us kept it and pasted on our wall to remind us that we shall never be wasteful.

 

  regards

   

 

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Sunday, March 13, 2011

why things r going wrong in their life inspite of power of satta and patta ??????

Thanks for a valueable pc of info. May be even I shall try to use it. However any such place in India is a harrassment tool against citizens and I know for sure that only there will be tarikh pe tarikh ( date after date).
They will call u and then wont be available, they will misplace the file, they will make u wait in lobby ( and will offer no parking, stinking toilets, rude behaviour,
no fans, no procedure explained ( will advise u to appoint agent/ broker ) etc etc and after a decade if complainant is still alive then may the other side is dead. In MRTP New Delhi to consumer court to BMC, election office, Small causes courts, MACT, banking ombudsman, Insurance ombudsman I have undergone this.
 
And therefore my wise friends say Alok make money like others make and bribe and get orders / work done like they do instead wastring life in Indian govt and judicial, quasi judicial places.
 
But there is a error in my mind and I keep fighting with hardly any luck.
 
You may go on and afterall god is there. Definitely he indirectly takes care of person like you and punishes the evil doers ( ofcourse they dont realise why things r going wrong in their life inspite of power of satta and patta ( authority and money).
 
God bless you.



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Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:07:51 +0530
From: johnnysoares15@yahoo.co.in
Subject: Re: [karmayog] Lokayukt-How to file Complaint?
To: tholiya@hotmail.com

Hi Mr Alok.
 
Thank you For Your Encouragement ...I am now planning to file a Complaint to the Lokayut /uplokayukt at New adm office, opp Mantralaya.
 
Please have a look at the attachment..it might be of Help to you/ others whom you know.
 
rgds
Johnny Soares
9920113912


From: Alok Tholia <tholiya@hotmail.com>
To: johnnysoares15@yahoo.co.in; Yahoogroups Karmayog <karmayog@yahoogroups.com>; santacruzcivicforum@yahogroups.com; tholiya@yahoogroups.com; menow@yahoogroups.com; resortstimemeshare-india@yahoogroups.com; jainmatrimonials@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 13 March, 2011 1:48:55 PM
Subject: RE: [karmayog] Lokayukt-How to file Complaint?



I have gone thru the same trauma at the hands of bureacrtas hundreds of time.
 
The remedy u tried to  find in Governor is also going to be ineffective as all these appointments whether of CVC, commissioners, Tiwari, governor, President etc etc are on the basis of not for their honesty but for their dishonesty. But preferance is given to one who can pretend to be honest, clean, or atleast has such image inspite of being dishonest.
 
No true honest can get the post which Ramanand or gov or Presi got.
 
I am running a sr citizens org for last 8 yrs in my area. There is member patil. They happen to be relative of President. In last allottement of flats they also got a flat in MAHADA. How?? That is inspite of having other flats in Mumbai.
 
I had come to know one Bhatrat Tapase. They were living in ruineous condition opp Sukhsagar, nr opera house.
 
Suddenly Morarji bhai picked up his father Mr Tapase as Governor of Haryana. And lo they soon got everything which even a industialist will by envy of. Including Gas agency ( which had very high black at that time) and what not.
 
I can go on and on. No appointments are without gratification. You have to pay back to system ( be it Cong or BJP or others) if you want appointment as anybody including Judicia......., police so who will work for you?????
 
So keep trying but leave results  on god and learn spiritualism to avoid B>P>..




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Tholiya Bhavan,
10th Road , Santacruz east, Mumbai 400055

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Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:22:28 +0530
From: johnnysoares15@yahoo.co.in
Subject: Re: [karmayog] Lokayukt-How to file Complaint?
To: tholiya@hotmail.com

Hi .
 
Thank you for your email
 
I have rigoursly followed with RTI 's in last 2yrs..Finally the RTI commissioner Mr Ramanand Tiwari Instead of Penalising the PIO gave him 2 chances and finally issued orders to just file a follow up report.
 
I have sent a 2 letters 6mnts back asking the Governor to Dismiss Mr Ramanand Tiwari as he has acted contrary to the RTI act..
 
Finally filed compalint twice with the ACB ..Both times the ACB has simply sent the compalint back to the BMC commissioner who will in turn send t to the same ward oficials against whom i have complained.
This is done even after I have sent a copy of the HC order which states that the ACB should conduct its own investigation and there is no need for it to refer the matter to the BMC commissioner.
 
rgds
Johnny Soares
9920113912

 


From: Alok Tholia <tholiya@hotmail.com>
To: Yahoogroups Karmayog <karmayog@yahoogroups.com>; johnnysoares15@yahoo.co.in
Sent: Sun, 13 March, 2011 4:08:27 AM
Subject: RE: [karmayog] Lokayukt-How to file Complaint?

No one is interested in taking any action as not taking action means lot of bribe from illegal doers.
However u can now seek info under RTI asking info what action they have taken against ur complaint?
Before replying to you they have to do some khana purti ( atleast some minimum action) like issuing notice. Keep writing under RTI. Finally approach higher with these records.



Thanks and Regards,
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Tholiya Bhavan,
10th Road , Santacruz east, Mumbai 400055

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For Issues of women in distress: http://womendignity.blogspot.com/
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To: karmayog@yahoogroups.com
From: johnnysoares15@yahoo.co.in
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:02:53 +0530
Subject: [karmayog] Lokayukt-How to file Complaint?

 
Hi Friends.
 
My complaints to the Keast Andheri east -Building and factory dept are yeilding no results..it seems that this dept is trying to shield the Unauthorised/illegal work done by another BMC Sub engineer against whom I have complained.
 
Complaints to ACB have not Yielded any results as thet simply send it back to the BMc commissioners office who i think resends it to the Concerned Dept.
 
Does any one know if I can file a compalint with the maharashtra lok ayukt and how to go about it?
 
Rgds
Johnny soares
9920113912



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